New Interview of Dakota for Fashion Magazine
While
I wait in the hallway outside the hotel room where my 15-minute interview with
Dakota Johnson will take place, one of her handlers kindly suggests that I not
ask anything about Fifty Shades of Grey. “She’s also getting a little tired, so
try to make your questions interesting and she’ll perk up.” #nopressure
I am ushered in and take
a seat on a beige sectional. I smile at another handler who is seated across
from me, ready to tape and time my speed-date chat with Johnson, one of three
muses for the new fragrance Gucci Bloom. The 27-year-old actress is slowly
pacing in the adjacent room, no doubt girding her loins for another interview.
Moments later, she walks
in and quietly sits on the floor in front of me. She is barefoot and dressed in
understated—at least for Gucci—black tux pants and a beige silk top. Her makeup
is minimal, and her fringed and layered haircut, c/o celebrity hairstylist Mark
Townsend, has me rethinking my no-bangs policy. She takes a sip of iced coffee
and looks up. “You’re halfway done,” I say, trying to be encouraging. “What?”
she responds, staring at another handler across the room. After being assured
that her day is nearly over, she laughs and says, “Like, how far do those windows
open?!”
She’s had a hectic few
days, which have included walking the red carpet at the Met Gala with Gucci’s
creative director, Alessandro Michele, and attending the fragrance launch party
at MoMA PS1 in Queens with her fellow perfume muses, Petra Collins and Hari
Nef. I begin our chat by asking her what song or book title best reflects the
past 24 hours of her life.
“Oh, my God. That’s such
a fucking great question,” she says, smiling. “Give me three seconds.” She
reaches for her phone and starts scrolling through her music. “I don’t know.
Hmm…that’s the craziest question,” she laughs and looks up. At the 1:50 minute
mark, I suggest we move on. I’ve lost a minute, and there’s plenty to cover.
Let’s start with her
take on what it means to be one of Michele’s Gucci girls—a title that confers
instant retro-cool status. Since the Italian designer took over in January
2015, his influence in fashion can’t be overstated. “Guccification,” which was
reportedly first uttered by Yves Saint Laurent as a slam for being too blingy,
is now code for the creative, theatrical and quirky style that he has
championed and that other designers now enviously emulate.
Johnson says she’s
honoured to be associated with an “incredibly cool” brand that elevates
fashion—and now perfume—to an art form that encourages women to be authentic
and true to themselves. The pair met at one of Michele’s first shows for Gucci
and became fast friends. Earlier that day at a Q&A session with
journalists, the designer described Johnson as a “super-sweet diva,” adding
that “she doesn’t care to be a diva. She’s a woman.”
Being authentic is
important to Johnson as it informs how she approaches her work as an actress.
Being cool—or striving to be perceived in a certain way—holds no sway with her.
This explains her guarded participation in social media. She doesn’t have a
Twitter account but suggests she could “nail it” with some of her one-line
zingers.
On Instagram, she has an
impressive post-to-follower ratio of 3 to 1.7 million. Her first and—at the time
of this interview—only post is dated August 11, 2015. It was a cover shot of
her on AnOther magazine,
which coincided with the release of A Bigger Splash. It garnered more than
290,000 likes and 38,000 comments. “I like that photograph,” she explains, when
asked why she posted it. “I just think that picture represents me in an
accurate and honest way.”
The Austin-born actress
explains that she has a love-hate relationship with social media—perhaps it’s
the publicity-weary outlook that happens when your parents are Melanie Griffith
and Don Johnson, your stepdad is Antonio Banderas and your grandmother is
iconic Hitchcock muse Tippi Hedren.
“I’ve had private
Instagram accounts where I post funny things or I can follow my friends, and
that’s nice, but then I just get sick of it,” she explains. “I don’t feel the
need to expose myself in that way…. I struggle with this because I could use
social media as a platform to talk about issues that I’m passionate about and
to connect with people who want to talk about art or music, but I can do that
with people I know.”
When I ask her what
might prompt a second post, she pauses before responding: “I don’t know. I
don’t think about it.” Nine days after we chat, she re-grammed a shot of Thom
Yorke from Pitchfork.
The Radiohead frontman is scoring the music for the upcoming Suspiria,
a horror film in which Johnson co-stars with Tilda Swinton and Chloë
Grace Moretz. The movie, which is a remake of the 1977 witchcraft cult
classic from Dario Argento, is about a ballet student who attends a prestigious
school that is covering up a series of occult-style murders. It’s Johnson’s
second film with Swinton, whom she describes as “brilliant.”
At the audition for that
film, Johnson recalls being intensely nervous. “I just couldn’t believe that it
was happening—that I was going to fly to this island off Sicily and do a table
read with some of my favourite actors of all time,” she recalls. “My anxiety is
so tricky. It becomes like a weird self-sabotage—like a weird little gremlin
that I can’t control.” Despite telling herself that she couldn’t do it and that
she wasn’t good enough, Johnson was able to pull herself together. But even
today she isn’t sure how she did it. “It’s a total process,” she says and then
pauses. “I just did it.”
It’s the same
determination that’s driving her to star in and executive-produce a film that
she says chronicles one of the “biggest missteps in American justice.” Unfit is
a historical courtroom drama about a Virginia woman named Carrie Buck who was
sterilized when she was 18 as she was deemed an “undesirable.” “It’s a very
scandalous and very dramatic story to tell cinematically, and it’s also dealing
with incredibly intense subject matter that is incredibly timely,” says
Johnson, who is an active supporter of Planned Parenthood. “It’s about the most
fundamental thing a woman can do and should have the right to do.” (Just before
this story went to press, Johnson posted a link to a Planned Parenthood video
on her Instagram feed with an amusing note: She couldn’t “figure out how to
‘post’ or ‘repost’ or copy and fucking paste the thingy into the thingy. How on
Gods green earth do I get the little video into the picture square.”)
Her other passion
project is Action in Africa, a community development project that her childhood
best friend launched in Uganda. Encouraging creativity—whether through dance,
music, storytelling or art—is the hallmark of the program. “We’re at a point
where there’s so much trouble all over the world, and it’s impossible to save
everyone’s life,” says Johnson. “But it’s not impossible to shed a little light
and bring creativity into the lives of these kids.” She says the program gives
children a chance to dream and to realize that they can invent something in
their heads that can make them happy.
The handler across from
me lets me know it’s time to wrap. My 15 minutes are up. As I’m leaving, I
jokingly ask Johnson if she has thought of a song that defines her past few
days. “Oh, God!” she laughs, and then makes a pfft sound. Pink Floyd’s “Breathe”
comes to my mind as I leave the room and pass another writer waiting in the
wings.
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